
I Reviewed Every File in the White House UAP Release
Transcript
Greetings. Yesterday we saw the third
White House UAP release and I have to
say this one is interesting. Much like
uh the previous one which I also thought
was quite interesting uh as well. I
would say for serious students of the
UFO or UAP subject, it's worth the time.
Uh this release brings together a many
different kinds of material. You've got
historical PDFs. You have modern case
reports. You have FBI interview records,
intelligence memoranda. There's more
NASA debriefings. We've been seeing
those in the last several releases. Uh
some interesting JPEG reconstructions.
I'll be showing you those. Couple of
short videos, audio clips. Uh even
there's some official correspondence. I
would say the value is not in any one of
the single files, but there is an
overall pattern. Uh the first thing I
just want to say here is this may be a
long presentation. I'm I've really tried
to make this a detailed nearly
comprehensive summary of the whole third
tranch because I believe that this
release deserves that. I spent u almost
the entire day yesterday and much of
this morning still going through that
material uh for you. But for those of
you who want the quick version, I'm
going to start with a very short
overview before I go into the details.
Uh so if you're in a hurry once we we
get to the detailed uh descriptions
though I'll be showing a lot of material
directly from the files as document
pages case images
official renderings videos and and
anything else that's interesting. So
I'll start um let me just review some of
the contemporary cases that are
discussed in this tunch. I think one of
the strongest is the Colorado Springs
report from 2022. It's not that long
ago. Uh, in that case you had five army
personnel near Chyenne Mountain
reporting um a strange potatoeshaped
object hovering in daylight. Uh, when I
get into the details of this in a few
minutes, I'll show you the rendering
that they made of it. Uh, what's
interesting is that the later official
assessment suggested a very very
conventional explanation, but admittedly
only with low confidence. Uh, their
conventional explanation was a bit
ridiculous, frankly. I'll also cover the
modern orb cases. There's a bunch of
those. Uh we have FBI and Arrow files
describing basically recurring luminous
objects in the northeastern and western
United States. Uh some of these files
are paper records, others include video.
Uh others include digital renderings and
animations uh based on witness
testimony. Kind of interesting. There's
a lot of historical material in this
tunch as well that shows basically the
same problem recurring across decades.
So there's early air force files. There
are uh early CIA reports. Project Blue
Book is in here. Robertson panel is
discussed. That's a 1953 CIA study. Uh a
reference, I don't know if many people
caught this, but to a very famous
sighting from 1955 by a US Senator
Richard Russell while he was in the
Soviet Union. Uh there's a file that
doesn't deal with Russell directly but
with someone I am certain who was part
of his entourage who saw apparently the
same or very similar phenomena. We'll
discuss that. Uh there's a little bit of
discussion of Soviet material in general
from the 1960s. Kind of interesting. Uh
there's a fascinating Australian defense
assessment. Uh something I had been
familiar with but I don't think was very
widely known. Uh and part of that at
least is in here. All of these show uh
official institutions
trying to determine whether UFOs
represented foreign technology or
misidentification
or you know something a little harder to
explain. Uh there's more NASA material.
There's been some of that for the first
few releases. We got more here. Uh
astronaut debriefing transcripts, some
audio excerpts. One of them's I think 90
minutes long. Another one's about an
hour. Uh there's correspondence. Uh so
we have astronauts, you know, reporting
unusual lights or debris or particles.
Uh visual effects uh effects, excuse me,
in space flight. Most of these I think
were treated conventionally in the uh
material. Although there is a a kind of
interesting fun two-minute interview
from 1962 with Gordon Cooper, the great
astronaut, and Walter Kankite, uh, where
basically Kankai just asks Cooper, "Why
do you believe in UFOs?" And Cooper
gives a pretty good answer. He's like,
"Hey, look, a lot of highly qualified
people have been saying things that just
don't make a lot of sense. I don't know
what they are, but uh, hey, for what
it's worth, uh, Cooper really came, both
of them came across it in a very
dignified way." Um and then there's a
final correspondence file which shows
NASA's public position back in 1998.
Uh kind of a large file too. So
basically their position was we're going
to acknowledge the reports of reports.
We're going to explain them away
conventionally. We're going to cite all
skeptical analysis and we're just going
to shut down the inquiry. That's
basically uh what you read in NASA's
public uh in in this release. Not very
impressive, frankly. Uh but when you
take all of these files together, what
they show is a kind of continuity.
You're talking different agencies,
uh different formats, different decades,
same problem. And I I was trying to
figure out like where do these files all
come from? And if you study the prefixes
uh on the site, I'll I'll link the site
uh the federal site below. Uh they give
you kind of a useful guide. So there's
uh a prefix at CIA UAP that refers
apparently to a CIA source material.
There's FBI UAP, that's FBI source
material. There's NASA UAP, that's NASA.
Uh DOW, Department of War, or Department
of Defense. Uh and then there's some
general stuff. There's USGSP that seems
to be just general government
correspondence. And there is one
category called CA UAP that seems to be
uh an analytic assessment product
although I'm going to treat that label a
little cautiously until we get a formal
definition. So that's a bit of an uh
just a quick overview. Let me go into
the details here. Now I'm going to start
with the Colorado Springs UAP report
from 2022. This case comes from two FBI
files. So, the first is a witness
interview about a 2022 sighting near
Colorado Springs. And the second is the
FBI's digital reconstruction of what the
witness described. So, the witness was a
former US Army intelligence officer.
Four other members of his unit were with
him when they saw the object over
Cheyenne Mountain in clear daylight.
It remained stationary for about 2
minutes. Uh this is the uh
reconstruction of it. The object was
described as potato- shaped. It was
pale. It was slightly translucent and
oolescent. One of the words in there. Uh
its surface appeared to consist of
irregular panels or scales. Uh the
object didn't move, but the panels seem
to shift in slow waves. So that's kind
of an interesting effect. So again, this
image is not a photograph. This is an
FBI reconstruction based on the
interview. Uh so after roughly two
minutes, the object vanished. The
witness described it as cloaking. Uh
basically disappearing in the time it
took for him to turn his head. Uh this
is the official assessment of that case.
And frankly, the assessment is almost as
interesting as the sighting itself. So
the proposed explanation is that
sunlight reflected from the snow covered
terrain onto low clouds over Cheyenne
Mountain uh created the appearance of
the object seen by the five soldiers.
This is the kind of explanation that if
you've ever studied the old project blue
book files from the air force that might
sound familiar to you. Uh kind of kind
of ridiculous frankly. To be fair, the
assessment assigned this only low
confidence. So, okay. Uh, it did
acknowledge uncertainties involving
cloud cover and viewing angles and
environmental conditions and whatever.
Uh, it also did note that there were no
aircraft or balloons identified in the
area. So, we have that. But still,
you're being asked to believe that five
Army personnel
in daylight looking at a stationary
structured object for up to several
minutes
confused reflected sunlight on clouds
for a hovering asymmetrical object with
panels and oh yeah, surface detail.
Is that possible?
Yeah, sure. I'm I'm certain there are
some alternate universes in which that
is the precise answer, but in this one,
not so much. Uh, this universe
presumably maintains a modest level of
common sense still, we hope. So, moving
on. This is one of the most interesting
contemporary cases in the release. Uh,
Arrow describes a 2023 event near a
sensitive national security site in the
western United States. So, we had six
federal law enforcement agents reported
seeing luminous orange uh mother orbs
producing smaller red orbs over a
two-day period.
As of June 2026, that is this month, the
case remains unresolved. That alone, I
think, makes it uh worth some attention.
So, we this is the visual material
relating to that. So, these are not
photographs, okay? These are digital
renderings based on witness testimony.
So you want to make that distinction.
But even so, these are very useful
images uh because they show what the
investigators are trying to preserve. A
large luminous object, smaller red dots,
and a reported relationship between
them. I'm moving on to the separate
images which you can now see. Um
those are the last two. Then this image
kind of changes the perspective a little
bit. We now see the witnesses observing
a bright orb like object over the
mountainous terrain. Again,
you shouldn't treat these as proof of
what was physically there. They're
reconstructions. But I think uh it's
very interesting that we see this level
of effort to recon reconstruct this. Uh
no other case in this release uh got
this degree of visual treatment. Um so
you can just see here
uh it's moving along there. Here
the sequence
uh is a little more interesting. So the
you see the multiple red lights arranged
near or around a larger luminous object.
Uh this matches the central claim in the
arrow summary. The orbs associated with
other orbs changing configuration over
time. So um very very interesting. you
get to see this and just more
perspectives
uh of that kind of neat.
Uh now this is a um video. Let's see if
I can get this video to go.
Here we go. Sorry.
This is a kind of a just a
not a very interesting reproduction, but
there you go. You can kind of see
uh coming in and out
and
expanding over some time.
And here's the um next one.
This is just a short uh little video
reconstruction.
Okay. I think they could have done a
better job with that, but we'll move
right along. So, now we're looking at a
different category of material. Uh these
files
uh document an FBI investigation into
recurring orb reports in the
northeastern United States. So uh a
little different from the western US
case. Here the emphasis they're not
doing digital reconstructions. This is
just more witness reports and interviews
and whatever other evidence they collect
over time.
This particular report uh involves a
luminous orb observed under
circumstances that the investigators
just thought was was worthy to document.
The case is interesting. Um
and uh you know you you're getting this
within a larger pattern of similar
reports that the FBI was tracking. Uh
this is a video that let me just click
this here.
Uh it's interesting. I don't really know
what you can make of it. Um, it at least
provides a kind of a visual uh component
to a case that you know otherwise all
you'd have are reports and interviews.
So,
and not sure what really this thing is.
So, it does it is a bright orb like
object. This goes on for a while. I'm
not going to play this entire video.
Uh, I will click uh this one. Make this
one move ahead. This is a northeastern
orb sighting again. Uh, this is a little
more interesting.
I think this shows some reddish uh or
There we go. Kind of moving together.
This was recorded in July of 2025 around
9:00 p.m. So, just last summer somewhere
in the northeastern United States. Uh
basically two witnesses are seeing um
these very bright uh first of one bright
red sphere they said hovering in their
background about 25 ft above the ground.
Uh one witness described a white
plasma-like center inside the red sphere
and then a second orb appeared above the
first and they moved together above the
tree line. You get to see a little bit
of that here. Uh as if they were either
in formation or maybe tethered and then
they just moved away. Uh and then the
witnesses said as they moved away they
appeared to merge.
So
um this is a a this video just ended. So
there you go.
Now uh we're going to leave the domestic
orb cases. I want to move to a very
different kind of document. And this got
a little bit of attention. uh I saw in
the news cycle uh currently dealing with
this tranch. This is a CIA intelligence
report from Zimbabwe. Uh this is the
Harari airport incident of July 2nd,
2008. So close to 20 years ago. Uh not
quite ancient history yet. Uh the
reported uh sighting
um involved an unidentified object over
the airport, possibly observed by both
radar and visual means. Uh this is
described as a discshaped object with a
hollow center rotating lights on the
underside and at one point beams uh
supposedly came out of it and then after
a certain period of of observing this
the lights changed color and the object
just rapidly
uh left took off. So uh by the way the
distribution list on this report's quite
interesting. This was circulated to the
White House uh situation room, FBI, NSA,
DIA, FAA, Joint Chiefs, not excuse me,
the Joint Staff and uh multiple uh
military commands. So, I I think that's
quite interesting. You know, clearly
this is being treated as more than just
a casual airport story. That's for sure.
Uh, even more striking, by the way, the
report says that the those discussing
the incident considered whether the
object might be an advanced foreign
reconnaissance platform or something of
extraterrestrial origin. The language is
in the document, so it's not enough
information to reach a conclusion.
Classic UFO report in my opinion. Uh,
files fairly redacted. doesn't give you
a lot of technical detail, but it is a
modern CIA report involving an airport
incident, high level distribution, and
language that openly entertains exotic
possibilities. So, uh, there you go.
Uh, the rest, this is we're moving into
more historical documents here. I found
them quite they kind of look boring.
Sorry about that. But honestly, uh, this
particular one that I've got here, and
by the way, the subtitles for each of
these are the file names. So, you can go
in and find this, download it, and go
through this yourself. This is a very
long file. Um,
uh,
this file,
uh, I think this is the one that
contains more than 170 Air Force
incident summaries from 1947 and 1948.
That's it right in the beginning. These
are not newspaper clippings, okay? These
are standardized military intelligence
reports uh recording witness names and
locations and altitudes and speeds and
shapes and all of that uh and
evaluations. Uh several cases correlate
with a lot of the classic early
chronology. I remember putting this
together 30 years ago when I was working
on my first book, Miro Airfield in July
1947. really important case. Rapid City
Air Force Base in 1948, that's another
one. White Sands, Fargo, Goose Bay. If
you're a UFO history nerd, you will know
these cases. Andrews and the early Green
Fireball uh reports as well. For me,
what makes these files interesting is
just the raw intelligence layer you get
here. Uh you can see the Air Force
building a UFO archive while this
phenomenon is still unfolding, right?
Um, and in some cases, these documents
do add detail to some of the more uh
familiar events, at least to the
historians. The Rapid City case, for
example, identifies uh the witness. I
didn't have his name before, Major Elmer
Hammer. Maybe that slipped by me, but he
was an intelligence officer. Uh, and he
reported 12 brilliant, silent,
elliptical objects
moving in formation. So, uh, this is
this is way better in a lot of ways than
the kind of mythology of UFO history.
This is the actual paperwork behind it.
Uh, I highly recommend this to those of
you who are interested in that kind of a
thing.
Uh, in December 1948, the US Navy
circulated a notice stating that Air
Force intelligence believed a new cycle
of flying disc reports was about to
begin. That alone is interesting, right?
And you go back to the history in late
1948 and the US government publicly was
doing nothing other than telling the
public, "Yeah, there's nothing to these
flying saucer reports. There's a whole
lot of hoie. Don't don't worry about
it." Here behind the scenes, the Navy is
saying, "Yeah, the Air Force
intelligence believes there's going to
be a new cycle of flying disc reports."
Wow. Uh naval commands were instructed
to report sightings immediately, uh to
obtain photographs whenever possible, to
uh forward information through
intelligence channels.
It's a it's a brief document, but it
really shows you that military
intelligence was already tracking
patterns in UFO reports
and preparing for future waves of
sightings.
This is why I really like this release.
It's just a lot of this fascinating
historical uh info. Uh this is a US Army
study from 1949.
Uh this was prepared at the request of
the plans and operations division. Uh
the question was whether the flying
saucer reports then circulating in
official channels uh could be explained
as natural phenomena or
whether they might be connected to a
foreign power. This is the early cold
war. The Soviet question was
unavoidable.
If objects were being seen over the
United States, one possibility was that
they represented some advanced Russian
development. So, uh, the Army
Intelligence Division reviewed this
issue. They came to a cautious
conclusion. They didn't find any
evidence that these were connected to
these flying saucer cases were connected
to any foreign nation. So, they kind of
ruled that out. This is something we've
already known uh for quite a while. But
again, you you see it here. Uh this file
also shows the army responding to the
very famous journalist at the time,
Walter Winchell, and his claim
that the flying saucers were Russian
guided missiles. You had all these kinds
of uh theories circulating at that time.
uh officials were asking for
verification of that, but intelligence
was not able to substantiate the claim
and there's never been any evidence uh
at all to to substantiate that the
Russians or the Soviets were behind
this. So, this document doesn't tell us
what the objects were, but it does show
us at least that by 1949, the US Army
was treating flying saucers as an
intelligence problem.
So it looked at the foreign explanation
uh for this and just said nah not really
there. There's a lot there. There's
about 25 pages in that particular
document.
Now this this is uh relating to the
Robertson panel. Uh that is the CIA
sponsored study of uh UFOs that took
place in January of 1953. That took
place during the very last weekend by
the way of the Harry Truman presidency
just before Dwight Eisenhower was
inaugurated. little bit of final house
cleaning. I always thought uh anyway the
panel was assembled at the direction of
CIA director Walter Beetle Smith
and um
its purpose was to just evaluate the all
the UFO reports and determine whether
this was a national security concern.
Really the the Robertson panel
I think the historical study of this has
shown beyond any reasonable doubt that
this was a done deal even before they
began studying this. the conclusion was
going to have to be a skeptical one and
it was going to have to be to um uh
really help to gut Project Blue Book,
which was I think one of the purposes of
this. But anyway, what stands out here
um
is isn't the panel's conclusions. We
we've known about that for a long time.
It's the paper trail. So here you see
the CIA distributing the panel's report
to senior officials across the whole
national security establishment. and um
you know it's not really uh all that
fascinating but there's a little bit of
additional uh paperwork relating to the
Roberts panel here if you're interested.
Now this release I'm just going to be
quick here but this is a famous project
blue book special report number 14
originally published in 1955. This has
been available for a long time. So, um,
you know, you could have gotten a copy
of this in any number of ways, but you
can now download the entire copy of it
in this in this release. Uh, basically
what's interesting about this report,
uh, this studied thousands of UFO
reports that were collected by the Air
Force from 1947 up to 1952 and it
applied statistical methods to the data.
Uh,
very interesting report. Stanton
Friedman, late UFO researcher, talked
about this uh report quite a lot. The
Air Force concluded, the official
conclusion was that the unknown cases
were unlikely to represent advanced
technology beyond known science.
However,
the report actually became very
important because the unexplained cases
statistically
were very different from the explained
cases.
Uh and in fact, one of the key uh
distinctions that was made was the
higher qual the quality of the witness,
the more likely the case was to be
unexplained. So if you if you had a
really good witness that actually made
it more difficult to explain these. So
that really spoke against uh the
conclusions that the air force was
trying to promote there. Anyway, you can
download it and read the whole thing.
There's a lot of charts and graphs and
pictures and uh you know it can be a
little dry, but there's also a lot of
gold nuggets in there. Uh this uh so
this is all about the great UFO wave of
1952 when uh reports were arriving so
frequently that formal procedures had to
emerge in order to share information
among all the different agencies that
were interested. The FBI uh the air
force office of special investigations
navy intelligence army intelligence uh
other agencies as well. So, one section
of this file records an August 1952
intelligence conference at McCordfield
devoted in part to handling and
disseminating these flying saucer
reports. So, what the discussion makes
clear is that UFO reports were being
treated as intelligence matters and were
being routed through established
channels. So, I thought that was just
interesting to see that. Um, the report
also contains quite a few uh sightings
from the state of Washington, including
a very detailed 1953 sighting near the
Hanford Atomic Energy Commission
uh reservation. There lots of uh flying
saucer UFOs were being seen at that. Uh
they were manufacturing plutonium there.
It was very important uh place for the
US nuclear industry there. Uh so anyway,
while investigators eventually
associated that case with a
meteorological balloon,
first of all, there were a lot of
reports that came out of there that were
not uh so easily explained that way.
Anyway, the report just shows you the
level of attention being given to very
unusual uh aerial observations uh during
that period. Now, the this particular
document, I don't think that many people
have noted just why this is important.
So, I want to talk about this here. This
is CIA UAP00006.
Um, back in October 4th, 1955, a US
senator who was visiting the Soviet
Union, his name was Richard Russell.
Richard Russell was a very important
senator. He was head of the Senate Armed
Services Committee at the time. So, he
was in the Soviet Union. This is not in
the document that I'm showing you here,
but just let me explain. He saw a
discshaped object actually ascending and
leaving while he was traveling by train
through the Soviet Trans Caucus' region.
Uh he actually said the outer service
seemed to rotate and there was like a
spark or some kind of light or maybe a
flame that came from the bottom and then
a second object uh performed the same
maneuver a couple of minutes later. So
Russell's case, he was interviewed by
the CIA. Uh this is a very
a very good uh kind of UFO report from
that time period. So this file, this is
dated the same day, October 4th, 1955,
and comes from the same region,
American traveling by train near Baku.
That's in Soviet Azeraijan at the time,
the Trans Caucus' region. The witness
was a US national with a political
science background. They said uh in the
USR by invitation of a senior Soviet
official. They don't say that he was
with Richard Russell, but uh I'm just
saying he probably had to be part of the
same uh group as as Senator Russell
because this guy described uh well he
described a triangular object near an
airfield lit by a search light which uh
then launched upward, made several fast
spirals and then climbed at about a 45
degree angle. So, as the Americans
watched,
a Soviet train official
came in and pulled the blinds down. This
is exactly what Richard Russell actually
had reported as well. And in fact, in
the original Russell statement, uh, as I
recall, he was accompanied by a couple
of his aids. I'm going to take a guess
that this is one of those aids. Uh, I
think the age this person in this report
was like 40 41 years old, probably about
the right age. So, you got the same
date, same region, same train setting,
same Soviet reaction. Uh, I'm going to
assume this is the same event. Uh,
so it's interesting because you really
want to uh speculate a little bit. What
was this? I've often wondered, were the
Soviets developing their own flying
saucer program in 1955?
You know, when I first read that case
years ago, many years ago, I thought,
"Nah, impossible." Now, I don't really
know. It's um, you know, you got to
wonder what were the Americans and what
were the Soviets working on in the
mid-50s. Uh, this surely seems to me not
impossible.
What do you think? Write it below. I'll
read. Let's move on. Uh so this is a C
uh CIA information report from 1950
talking early years here. Uh this was
forwarded um uh they forwarded this
article by Dr. Edward Ludvig. He was a
German scientist in Chile. Gee, how did
this German guy get into South America?
Who knows? Uh anyway, Ludvig argued that
uh flying discs might be the result of
advanced German aeronautical research
from the war years, possibly now in
Soviet hands. Uh he discussed uh
rotating systems and uh what was called
boundary layer theory and unconventional
lift. So the value here is definitely
historical. Uh and maybe it's got leads
here. It does show the CIA tracking
early attempts to explain UFOs as
foreign technology.
Uh this is a 1967
CIA report uh which records
conversations that Soviet scientists had
about UFOs
in the USSR.
Uh 1967 was a really interesting time in
Soviet UFO research. It was uh during
that era like UFO research had its ups
and downs and it had recently gone
through a real down phase in the early
and mid60s and in 1967 there was a brief
kind of resurgence of UFO uh study. It
didn't last long but anyway it was
during this period.
Some of the Soviet scientists kind of
dismissed the subject. Others, as
discussed here, admitted hearing of
sightings in a whole bunch of different
places. Uh uh, one Soviet astronomer
said a reddish object seen by several
astronomers was not a satellite and not
a meteorite. So that was another one
said the subject was just very, very
open. We don't really know what it is.
Um, this report had an interesting uh or
useful conclusion which was basically
that official ridicule
had suppressed serious discussion but
interest in the phenomenon was still
very widespread among Soviet scientists.
Uh, and I I think historically that has
turned out to be quite accurate.
This is another CIA report. This focuses
on another Soviet event. This is the
Sari Shagon missile and anti-bballistic
missile testing range. This is from
1973.
Uh most of this document about weapon
systems and uh laser research that was
believed to be taking place. But buried
within it is a little brief UAP report
uh where a witness observed a bright
green circular object in the sky. It
expanded. there were several concentric
green rings that were formed around it
and then the phenomenon faded uh
silently without any explanation. I
think this was partially referred to in
the previous trench as well if I'm not
mistaken.
Um this is there were actually two
documents in the trench that related to
this what I'm about to discuss here a
Budapest Hungary 1955 wave. one of the
documents uh at least my version of it
was unreadably small. You couldn't read
anything. But anyway, you we do have
information here. So, this is a 1956 CIA
report uh describing basically a wave of
unusual aerial sightings during late
1955.
So according to the writer and the
writer was the niece of uh some
important American official at the time
uh the objects had kept people in a
nervous state for weeks
and had attracted the attention of
scientific investigators as well. So
this is something that was getting
attention in the nation of Hungary. Uh
uh the I think this the phrase was
keeping scores of scientists busy was
what it was. And oh the reported speed
was estimated at 12,000 kilometers per
hour. And uh you can see in this there
was a kind of a sketch showing the
reported flight path between Budapest
and Moscow.
Didn't really quite make a lot of sense
of that sketch but there it is. Uh very
interesting. Very interesting. By the
way, in October 1956,
of course, was a famous Hungarian
revolution. Uh I think it was October 20
23rd of 1956 where it was an attempt to
kind of throw off Soviet rule in Hungary
that failed. Uh by November of 1956, the
tanks were in and they had uh crushed
all descent. But kind of interesting and
I often do wonder about the relationship
between uh UFO UAP sightings and
political
uh instability in various places of the
world. I don't really know that there's
a definite relationship but I have often
uh wondered about this and this is yet
just another instance of that
interesting possibility. Now this this
is a 1971 Australian uh Department of
Defense document. This is definitely one
of the more interesting uh historical
papers in this release. Uh really the
reason because it it shows just how a
defense analyst viewed the UFO problem
after nearly 25 years of of official
investigation by this point. So the
author of this document again this is
the Australian Defense uh Ministry here.
He reviewed all the American projects,
project sign, project grudge, project
blue book, the Robertson panel, the
Condan report which was out by then. And
what he argued was that the public
treatment of UFOs did not match the
level of official concern behind the
scenes. No kidding. But it's just kind
of interesting to read that here. uh he
highlighted one of the findings from
project blue book special report number
14 that I have already discussed uh
which is the exact same point which is
that the better quality of the witness
and the better quality of the report
translated to a higher percentage of
unexplained cases. So that that goes
opposite from telling you yeah these are
really not very important at all. But
this paper went much much further than
that. uh he suggested that Australia
should not simply follow the public
American position on UFOs.
Instead, he he's he's saying, "Look, we
should do a scientifically serious
approach to this subject. Australia
should look for a better understanding
of the phenomena for itself, not follow
the US lead." Australians, are you
listening? You could follow that advice
today in your relationship to the United
States. just say might not be the worst
idea. Anyway, whether you agree or not
with all of uh this man's conclusions,
it's beside the point, although I think
it's a very intelligent paper. Uh but
what makes this very noteworthy to me is
here you see by 1971 how questions about
secrecy and intelligence collection and
really the gap between public statements
and private assessments were already
being discussed within um basically
western defense circles. I think it's a
very very interesting release. Uh
there's a bunch of NASA files that were
released as well. Most of these are are
primarily technical astronaut
debriefings. You can see uh this is just
a snippet of one of the pages uh PDFs.
Uh they do include several passages
relevant to the history of UFO
discussion in space flight. So the
strongest material I would say concerns
the astronaut observations of uh they
called sparkles or these luminous
particles of debris, unusual lights uh
during particularly the Mercury and
Gemini missions. The Gemini 4 files are
in here. They're particularly notable
because you had astronauts McDivet and
White discussing
uh the visual sightings from orbit um
including a lot of observations that
were later uh discussed in uh UFO
literature. You can read about that in a
lot of old books. Uh Gemini 5 includes
descriptions of quote snow or debris or
glittering material around the
spacecraft. Uh Gemini 7 has the famous
Borman bogey controversy, although uh
this debriefing definitely leans toward
ordinary um orbital explanations like
booster tracking and debris and meteors
and aurora and whatever.
uh the these files uh do not
prove any extraordinary objects in
space. They do show you though that the
objects were reporting unusual visual
phenomena often enough for NASA to
document all of this and to question and
to analyze it in some detail.
Uh this is one of the pardon me one of
the files that got a lot of attention at
least some in the news is this one right
here. Um this there were a couple of uh
audio clips that were released in this
trunch. This one is a short uh 1962
interview clip between Walter Kankhite
and astronaut Gordon Cooper. It's only
it's it's interesting. You should listen
to it. Um
Kankite basically asks Cooper like why
do you why do you think UFOs are
serious? You're it's known that you
believe in them. And Gordon Cooper was
extremely uh I I think very professional
in his answer. He just said, "Look, many
qualified people, too many qualified
people have seen these objects with no
logical explanation uh in any
conventional sense." And uh he
speculated. He said, "Look, there's got
to be a lot of life out there in this
universe. I have got to think someone
has figured out a way to to uh get a
look at us." Essentially, that's what he
says. And um how do you how do you
dispute that? It's it's interesting to
read. There's a couple of other uh audio
files. One is a a both of them are
fairly long. Apollo 16 uh scientific
debriefings. This is back from 1972.
Uh one of them
uh the relevant item you get uh a flash.
That's right. That was mentioned um I
think around 25 minutes into um
u one of one of those I think the longer
one. Uh
and oh yeah there was the the other one
uh there was the speaker jokingly says
could be an alien star base or
something. Clearly it was a joke while u
in the middle of discussing some other
experimental
things that I I really didn't really
even follow all of that but it was
interesting. Basically kind of a
throwaway line I thought uh not really
serious. Uh this is the last file I'm
going to discuss here. This is really
not anything about UFO evidence. This is
this is all about NASA's official
posture relating to the whole subject.
So in 1998, congressional offices were
still forwarding UFO inquiries to NASA
and to the White House. Uh so one
request was sent through Senator Charles
Grassly asked about alleged UFO
sightings by astronauts.
NASA's answer was pretty standard. Well,
astronauts have seen many unusual
objects, but most were identified as
debris or spacecraft material or water
droplets or whatever. Uh, and then NASA
also stated that it had no UFO
investigation program and had we're not
holding any information back either,
according to NASA. Uh the file did
include James Oberg, famous NASA
skeptic, and his analysis, very
skeptical analysis of a famous astronaut
UFO claims,
including the McDiv and the Gemini
cases. So, what's interesting here is
that this is just you're just seeing
NASA at work, you know, uh by the late
1990s, the public answer was always the
same. You acknowledge your reports, you
explain them conventionally, you you
cite a skeptical analysis, and you just
really clo close the whole thing up.
So, uh there are a couple of other uh
files or folders that I I didn't even
bother to discuss here, but I think I've
discussed nearly everything of the 72
files that were released.
I would just say like if you're looking
for disclosure, okay, this is not
disclosure. There's no document here
that's going to change the world.
There's no final answer or admission.
However,
if we just set aside the word disclosure
for a moment, just forget forget that.
Forget that there's this whole
disclosure debate. This release is still
valuable.
It is a substantial collection of
records. Uh some of these are very
substantial collections of records. uh
intelligence reports, FBI interviews,
military assessments, the NASA
debriefings, you know, ah what are you
gonna they're at least they're in there.
Uh the visual reconstructions, the
videos, some of which were kind of
interesting. Um couple of the files are
weak, some are skeptical, some of these
I found genuinely interesting. So this
is not a trivial uh uh release. What you
really see here is the the UFO or UAP
problem moving through official
institutions across decades. Okay, not
this is not folklore now or
entertainment. This is something that
you can see in these files that agencies
collected and assessed and tried to
explain and debated
and and sometimes could not resolve. So,
you know, I wouldn't call this a holy
grail, but this is documentation. And
look, in this field, documentation is
important. So, I don't want to oversell
this release, but you don't want to
dismiss it either. I know realize
there's a lot of folks out there, they
because if it's not everything all at
once, they're just going to say this is
another nothing burger. I would dispute
that. I think this release adds just
another layer to a historical record
that frankly is already deeper than most
people realize and I think this just
adds to it. So, uh I was pleased to see
this release. I would encourage you if
you are a serious student of the subject
go to the link, go check out download
some of the files. Uh, every one of the
slides I showed you, I I tried to give
the proper file name so you could find
it.
Um, you can do it. They don't make it
super easy, but they don't make it super
difficult either. It's it's not that
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