UFO Disclosure, Trojan Horse for New World Religion w/ Matthew Ehret

All right, I am here with Matthew Eritt

on the Duran once again. Matthew, it is

great to have you on. And before we get

started talking about what will be a

first for for the Duran, but I feel it's

going to be a very I know it's going to

be a very interesting uh video before we

get started discussing your documentary.

Where can people follow your work?

>> Absolutely. Well, thanks for having me

on, Alex. and they can follow my work at

canadianpatri.org

or matthew.substack.com.

>> All right, I will have those links in

the description box down below and as a

pinned comment. So, I just finished uh

watching episode 4 of your documentary,

The Hidden Hand: UFOs, which uh which I

found to be to to my surprise because

I'm not I I find it interesting the

whole topic of of UFOs, but I'm not it's

not something that that I read up on

often, but I found it extremely

interesting because I feel as if there

is a lot of uh of geopolitical tiein and

it's very relevant to to a lot of the

things that are happening today in uh in

governments, especially the governments

of the collective west. So, I'm going to

pass it off to you in wherever you you

want to begin. I will also have the link

to the documentary in the description

box down below. It is part four that you

have uh just released. You've just

released it, correct?

>> Very recently. Yeah, a few months ago.

>> Okay. A few months ago, great. Yeah. So,

uh, I encourage everybody to to check it

out and to also see all the, uh, the

previous parts. But, Matthew, I pass it

over to you. So, you can perhaps maybe

add some context about this documentary,

what compelled you to, to move forward

with this

>> and we can we can move the the show

along.

>> Yeah, most most certainly. Thank you,

Alex. And I'm glad I'm glad you enjoyed

it. Um, it's it's part of an ongoing

series. I imagine that we're going to

have about eight episodes when we

finally do justice, I think, to the

topic. And it's been it's it's something

that I've done with my wife and our

filmm collaborator, genius, uh, friend

Jason Dah, who's been able to take a lot

of our our ideas, our research, and turn

it into these multimedia documentaries

we've been making. So, I'm I'm very

proud of of how this one turned out. And

it wasn't something that I went into

highly passionate about a couple of

years ago when I began this research.

But I what caught my attention was in 20

2019 there were some anom anomalies that

just simply bothered me like the fact

that the uh the Congress was announcing

that they were going to begin

congressional investigations into UFO

government uh collusion. Uh David Grush

was becoming a name increasingly uh as a

whistleblower on the inside. There was a

another fellow by the name of uh Tom Lew

uh not Langu. Um the the singer from

Blink 182. Um I'm I'm I'm blanking on

his name all of a sudden. Uh but he

became a

>> I know who you're talking about though.

Tom something. You keep on going and

I'll look.

>> I got it. I got it. Del or the long

whatever. Um Tom Dong.

Yeah. and he all of a sudden was a very

weird personality that I was just seeing

uh curated and propped up in the social

media space in the in the podcasting

space and even in in mainstream media.

He was being brought in on official

mainstream media platforms to be a voice

promoting the UFO disclosure operation.

But he wasn't alone. He had a and this

is 2019, right? I was doing this work. I

I wrote a little article for strategic

culture foundation and um

he was he had created an agency which I

clearly saw very quickly by looking at

their website and their history that it

wasn't he was clearly a frontman because

of all of the advisers and co-creators

of this agency called to the stars

academy of the arts and sciences in 2016

and among the co-founders were people

like Harold Putoff

uh a figure who was extremely high up in

the US uh intelligence apparatus he was

a co-founder of Project Stargate back in

1973.

Um, which was an offshoot of the SR the

Stanford Research Institutees

uh program which I think was kind of a a

continuation when I look at its its

operating procedures, what it was what

it was doing as far as uh uh mind

experiments on especially young people.

It was a it was a large operation that

was tied to the CIA. So the fact that

you have this guy Harold Putoff playing

a role in co-founding this agency and

then when I listened to an interview of

of Tom Dange

uh talking about the how he got

recruited into this he literally talks

about how you know you have former uh

leading figures within the CIA within

the deep state the former Pentagon

bioweapons

uh uh I forgot the name of the the spec

specific title all a part of and and

serving as his adviserss in this thing.

And you could look at their on their

website, look at the bios of each of

these personalities, and these are very

high up creatures of of Obama's deep

state. And I'm just thinking to myself,

okay, this is clearly there's another

thing going on. Do they really care? Do

all of these deep state operators really

care that much? Christopher Melon,

right, was a big uh promoter and back

backer of this thing. Do they really

care about truth? Is that really

something that is a high priority for

these agencies and for the deep state

that's been around taking over our

government, overseeing the murder of

John F. Kennedy and and turning the

United States into an empire? Um, do

they care about truth really about UFO

government collusion or is there some

other agenda going on? So, of course,

there's there's another agenda and I I

composed my my little article

um which sort of created the baseline

for a lot of my further research. One of

the anomalies that I also picked up on

in the art in that 2019 article, which

comes up a lot in in episode three and

episode 4, the one you just watched, is

Lawrence Rockefeller, one of the most

powerful patriarchs of the the

Rockefeller family, who passed away in

2004. But, you know, he was one of the

lesserk known, but I would say one of

the most influential of the five

Rockefeller brothers who are the

grandsons of John D. Rockefeller Jr.

and um and he's a fellow who was openly

rec recognized as a hero in the UFO

truth community because he was the

founder of the disclosure project for

the Clinton White House in 1991.

He was a big backer of Bill Clinton. He

was brought into the White House.

There's pictures of him and Bill in the

earliest days when Bill is just learning

the the ropes of uh of Washington. He's

got there's pictures of him and Hillary

Clinton where Hillary was being brought

down to his uh resort uh compound in uh

I think it's Wyoming.

and uh and he's the the creator of the

of the initiative

that uh Bill Clinton celebrates by by

being the first, you know, president

president releasing classified

information on on UFO research and FBI

interrogations of people who saw things

in the sky and millions of batches of

files were released under Bill Clinton.

Nothing really there per se other than

anecdotes galore. But uh that really put

a lot of fuel onto the fire of the

disclosure movement as a movement per

se, especially at at a time when the

Soviet Union was not really serving its

role as the organizing principle of the

big threat to unite and organize the

American population. Right? It was the

moment the Soviet Union's circuits were

being pulled out from within.

again not disconnected from Lawrence

Rockefeller who played a big role in

funding not just the Elin Stargate

projects cuz that a lot of the the

operations in California were being

fused into the operating procedures of

remote viewing you know different ways

that drugs can help open up uh astral

projection and give superpowers to

especially uh military initiates. This

is what was largely brought into the

military under, you know, the movie The

Men Who Stare at Goats starring George

Clooney. It's a John Ronson book that

was turned into a movie a little while

ago. That was a true story under John

Alexander and other other people around

General Stubblebean who was the head of

military intelligence in 1988 who

brought in these basically new age

reforms into the military to create Jedi

mind wars. people who could literally

just focus their power of mind with the

help of transcendental meditation and

other things to blow up the heart of

goats as practice for blowing up the

hearts of your enemies on the

battlefield with your mind or to astral

project to see where Osama bin Laden's

layers are are hidden when you're in

maybe Langley Virginia but you you'll be

able to know because of your training to

see on the astral plane where Osama bin

Laden's operations are in Afghanistan

and and use that information to carry

out drone attacks halfway around the

world. So all this stuff was actually

brought in. It it it sounds crazy, but

this was the spoon benders, right? They

were bringing in Yuri Geller, who was

also being who was serving as the role

model of of mind war operators during

Stargate. He was being brought in as a

role model to train many of these

special forces operations under

Stubblebean.

And uh and again, Putoff was playing a

role in that too. and others. Michael

Aquino, the infamous satanic uh colonel

who uh got his stripes carrying out

operation Phoenix in uh in in Vietnam,

was also a big player in infusing the

mind war, scops to mind wars uh

strategic banual, which I think became

strategic policy

um or or tactical policy in in the U the

new US military reforms of the 1980s

that went on to create the vanguard of

the new Jedi, you know, warrior elite.

that oversaw things like Desert Storm

and 9/11 and everything since then, I

would say. So, Lawrence Rockefeller,

well, how does that tie into the

collapse of the Soviet Union? Well, this

guy was also bankrolling the I forgot

the name of it, but it was the American

Russian Friendship Association through

Eselin. He was the the principal

bankroller of that. I think there was an

article on the Atlantic from years ago

talking very much about that. This is

not a secret piece of information where

people like Boris Yeltson were brought

in from Russia to go to Esin and uh and

receive special secret training and and

and whatever other experiences he was

given, I can only imagine, with other

members of a certain faction within the

Russian uh deep state apparatus

that were then brought in to coordinate

on the other side of the Iron Curtain a

controlled demolition of the Soviet

Union and effectively some weird kind

Kumbaya thing where even Gorbachev was

sponsoring Elin pro projects in Russia

even though he was nominally a rival to

Yelten. He was still sponsoring Elin

projects on the Russian side. So it

seems like even there you have the hand

of Lawrence Rockefeller doing that. But

what else was he doing? This guy was

sponsoring the weirdest things. He's

known as the philosopher who also became

the head of the or the spokesperson for

the disclosure initiative. Uh, after

Steven Greer was brought to Lawrence

Rockefeller's Wyoming ranch, the same

ranch that Hillary Clinton was brought

to, so too was Steven Greer brought in

1993 before unveiling this disclosure

initiative. Um, so was Lind Linda Molton

How was brought into this thing, too.

There there's photographs of all of them

together with Lawrence Rockefeller that

we cite. Um, but Greer talks about

Lawrence Rockefeller as the the

philosopher amongst the Rockefellers.

He, you know, he's ready to to criticize

all of the Rockefeller, you know, Nelson

and David and all of that. They're bad.

But but Lawrence is the misunderstood

philosopher of them all who who gives

great patronage to the truth tellers

amongst whom we could find and I cite

this in my original 2019 article and it

comes up in in the videos. Terrence

McKenna, you know, and and Terrence

McKenna's Green Earth Foundation that

did so much to popularize the revival of

a fungus cult, a psychedelic mushroom

cult of the ancient times that Terrence

McKenna was very committed to reviving

as a new foundation for a post-Christian

religion that would, in Terrence

McKenna's own mind, help us communicate

with interdimensional aliens from the

beyond that he was quite convinced

ancient mushroom psychedelic

practitioners of ancient times were

interfacing with when they got

information on how do you build the

pyramids or how does you know Jesus walk

on water or whatever, right? He had a

whole like creative mythos that he was

very very uh committed to as far as the

religious foundations that tie to aliens

that that these these drugs psilocybons

uh give us as a power to be more than

human to be sort of to have superpowers

which is I think what all of these guys

always seem to want at the end of the

day is to is to create superpowers that

allow them to communicate with forces

from the beyond whatever those might be.

And uh and a lot of these things were

developed by MK Ultra. So, if you if

again the the drug thing, the UFO

uh UFOs are running governments around

the world and there's been secret

government alien communications this

whole time that these two storylines

have been parallel but inter interfacing

and there I think they're two sides of

the same thing coming into policy today

as we speak because again MK Ultra was

the CIA o overseen program that

generated LSD25 the entire spectrum of

different types of silos.

DMT. All of this stuff didn't come

emerge organically from the

counterculture movement that just like

wanted to experiment with alternative

ways of thinking by themselves. These

were all top-down programs that used

human guinea pigs first in the military

and then broadened it to students to

hospital patients at the Allen Memorial

and other things in thousands of

projects and sub projects overseen by

people like Alan Bellis and people like

uh

Frank Wisner and and uh and Sydney

Gotautle, you know, the guy who was also

commissioned to finding different ways

of of overthrowing Castro and so many

other leaders of governments that were

not not behaving the way they were

supposed to. But this is the guy who was

overseeing the the mind wars program

that was doing all sorts of things in

Stanford which was one of the big

universities carrying out human guinea

pig experiments in the 50s and the 60s

on MK Ultra as was Harvard which is what

gave us the gifts of things like Ted

Kazinski as the uniformer who was part

of one of the silos the Harvard

psilocybin project under Gotautle and

Mur and uh Henry Murray also Aldis

Huxley played a role in that project as

well as Ron Das in overseeing that

program on on children, young people,

uh, who were broken of their and and

liberated of their old morality, old

identities through the help of these,

you know, depattering mind drugs and god

knows whatever else they did to them and

then came out completely new, glazed

over eyeballed fanatics with strange

obsessions to to destroy industrial

civilization and create his own cults,

which is ex exactly what he did before

he died. So you got this this whole

thing which is

topdown sponsored again. Carl Jung plays

a role in the documentary series as I

take note that he was exposed even by

leading scientists who were pissed off

with him because they they got wind that

he was working to create a uh a new UFO

religion during the Cold War with the

help of Carl Jung who was an OSS agent

in World War II and who continued to be

his

advisor, his psych psych psych

psychological warfare adviser throughout

the 1940s into the 50s, writing guiding

messages to him, even being commissioned

by Carl by Alan Dulles uh where Carl

Young was commissioned to write this

book uh that I have actually right here

and that I used in the documentary

Flying Saucers, a modern myth of things

seen in the sky, which is sort of a

handbook for social engineers telling

giving people the who are going to be in

the levers of power influencing the

shadows in the cave walls how to use

this new mythos of the saucer, what it

represents as a substitute for God, a

substitute for

um you know the divine that could then

be used for a new religion, a new

governing mythos for the next

generations of human beings. It it's it

really does read like a handbook. And

Carl Young again was not just sponsoring

um the the UFO thing in that sense or or

guiding the UFO UFO thing as was other

people who got fired by John F. Kennedy

like uh Richard Basel who John F.

Kennedy also fired who was the head of

pol office of policy coordination uh the

the basically psychological warfare

division of the CIA and basically the

assassinations expert of the CIA who

founded Area 51 and who ran Area 51 all

the way up until JFK fired Belle as well

as uh Jung and Charles Cabel who Charles

Cabel is the vice director of the CIA

who JFK did also fire for a variety of

reasons. It's not just the Cuban uh not

just the the the botched you know Bay of

Pigs operation that though that was a

big re official reason there were other

aspects to it but Charles Cabel also was

the guy who officiated the creation of

project blue book the official CIA

program to observe alien contact that

went on until 1969 started in 1952

and uh and helped incubate a lot of the

uh the the myths including that of

Roswell including that of the uh the

dissected aliens that we've been keeping

that somehow couldn't couldn't avoid

crashing. They could they could develop

technology so advanced that it could

probably it could transcend light speed

or bounce from another dimension into

ours. So they were that advanced, but

they once they arrived here, they just

kept on crashing in deserts around US

military bases. And you're like, come

on. It's like, but they built on that,

right? And they built on the mystique

that that uh that that created in in

movies and in shows and books and and

things like that that started on the

fringe that tickled the imagination of

people on the fringe. But everything on

the fringe, one generation, if you if

you look like you leap ahead to the next

generation, it often becomes mainstream.

if especially if it's being groomed and

curated from very powerful forces who

are thinking multigenerationally

as those who I just mentioned are. Which

brings us to the current situation today

where it seems like, you know, you have

Stephen Spielberg's disclosure day

that's happening on Thursday and Stephen

Spielberg is celebrating how Christians

are going to have to completely rethink

their religion and uh this is not

fiction in Spielberg's mind and

Spielberg was a guy who was brought into

this operation early on as one of the

first promulgators or promoters of this

new way of thinking with his film Close

Encounters of the Third Kind.

in 1978.

>> Yeah.

>> So,

>> EET as well.

>> ET ET as well. That was Steven

Spielberg. That's right. Yeah. And Close

Encounters was actually he uh had had as

his adviser, the guy who coined the term

close encounters of the third kind and

created the the the categorization

system that has been used even in

universities and and what have you for

scientific the scientific language for

UFO uh investigations was Jaylen Heinik

who even played a role in his film. gave

JL and Heinek a role to play. And Heinek

was the guy who was the the primary

overseer of every single government UFO

op uh investigation from Project Sign

Project Grudge in the ' 40s to uh the

Robertson the Robertson panel on UFO

phenomenon in 1950. He was the overseer

of project blue book. He was the

overseer in 1974 to 1978 of the National

Inquirers Blue Ribbon Committee uh

co-sponsored by the NISAP the uh the

National

Investigation

uh just NISAP was the it was basically a

citizens investigation of the UFO

phenomenon aerial phenomenon uh

committee that was created by the CIA.

Uh its first president was Richard uh

Hill and Coacher. Uh Hilling Coacher was

the first director of the CIA who

founded this thing. Um it was staffed by

Spooks from the top down. It was entire

the board of directors. Ro Brian uh

Brian III um something Brian the third

who was the one of the top officials at

the office of policy coordination and uh

sponsor of the first meetings that

created project artichoke and uh project

MK Ultra. was also a very enthusiastic

board member of the uh this national

citizens inquiry on aerial phenomenon

commission that then took over the

reigns of the CIA with the National

Enquirers

uh project blue book uh that basically

took it to the next and heck was always

there he was always overseeing these

different committees and he was the guy

who started as the big critic that was

his his his

claim to fame is he was like the big

he's the guy who came up with the with

the the scientific swamp gas explanation

that people aren't seeing anything

anomalous. They're seeing swamp gas.

Now, that was an unscientific lazy

response that he did as the big official

critic of the UFO believers up until

1965 when he just has this weird salt to

Paul on the road of Damascus conversion

and he's like all of a sudden the

loudest, most enthusiastic evangelizing

UFO promoter. And um and what gave him

the credibility is that he played such a

big role for so many years managing

these different things and being a

critic, you know, the constant

materialistic critic. And then all of a

sudden with his his shift, he became

seen as like that was like the big

authority that you're supposed to go

along with him. If you were critical, if

you had doubts, you were supposed to

leave those behind just like he had the

courage to do and become a believer just

like him, which actually made him quite

the celebrity in the UFO truth

community. and he advised Spielberg as

did Jacqu Valet who also worked with

uh Tom Delanch uh on the creation and

management of the uh to the stars

academy and also on project stargate

earlier uh that same Jacqu ballet who's

very very active in the truth community

today on the UFO subject was uh was

brought in as well as the he was given a

actual part there was a French scientist

in Spielberg's

on the Close Encounters movie and that

was an homage directly to Jacqu Valet.

But then Jacqu Valet and Heinik were

both also giving at simultaneously

testimony and speeches at the United

Nations. People can Google and see

pictures of both of them at the UN

calling for and you can read their

speeches. They're still the transcripts

are available calling for one world

government to manage all of the UFO

anomalous data internationally in a

singular control uh mechanism. So

helping to effectively speed accelerate

the transcendence of the nation state

system that's outdated to something that

allows for a top- down management under

this idea of a thorn an alien threat.

You know, is this something to unite the

world around a threat? Is it something

that's here to save us? Let's get more

data. Let's get more feedback loops. And

he's also a promoter of of cybernetics

in that sense as a co-founder of of

working for DARPANET of the modern

internet. Um he's also a co-founder of

the idea the thesis that the aliens

aren't extraterrestrial so much as they

are inter in interdimensional. So he's

the one who develops and coins that term

in 1969 sponsored by Heinik

of interdimensional aliens that might

also be demons that might also be all of

the pixies and gnomes and other things

that were like you know stealing

children in the force of Bohemia that we

didn't have a language for and we called

them whatever fairies evil fairies or

witches but he's like no these are

actually interdimensional aliens they

didn't have a word for that but that's

why they operate and do like occult

black magic type of rituals on people

who get abducted and talk about how they

were sexually molested or tortured by a

lot of these UFO experiences. And that's

the reason why it's that that it's it's

the same black magic that was happening

by witch covens on people or or other

kinds of you know demon forces that

these were always the demons. So he

paints a picture of a very nefarious

kind of image of these dark forces, but

then they they they build on that. And

so in my documentaries, and I I've been

spewing it out for a while now, uh I

I'll throw it I'll throw the ball back

at you. What I'm trying to do is just

shed light on like who's who's who

orchestrating this basically and why.

>> Right.

>> Well, um the the interesting part about

your documentary is is is that it goes

back to it ties in a lot of uh of CIA

programs. It focuses quite a bit on uh

on JFK and what he was he was working to

expose.

And and it brings me to to where we are

today where we see a type of uh of a

resurgence in interest in in the whole

UFO phenomenon ushered in by Trump.

Well, at the same time, we have uh the

the the interest in JFK as well and what

happened with the assassination of of

JFK through the release of of the

documents once again um initiated by

Trump. And of course you have the the

geopolitical uh changes that uh that

we've been documenting both of us uh in

in our uh in our reporting and in our

various videos and programs which which

is a big shift for for the way the world

works.

the the message that I got from from

watching your your documentary is that

much of the the UFO narrative is rooted

in in this one world globalist type of

government governance even though even

though all of it seems to be very US

focused the UFO phenomenon and you can

correct me if I'm wrong definitely is is

US or North American centric I don't see

a lot of countries outside of uh of the

US or or or the North America

the the hemisphere actually focusing so

much on UFOs or documenting UFOs.

But all of a sudden you you have a shift

from globalism unipolar world to a a

different structure the the multipolar

world let's say or or or some sort of of

of block power sharing which is

happening. But you have the the UFO

narrative which which definitely feels

like it is about

holding the the position of of the

globalist or further or furthering along

the globalist control of the world. Is

is that a correct assessment? Am I

looking at this right? I mean is is that

why could that be the reason why we see

especially the Trump administration

really now pushing the whole UFO thing?

We see so much interest now in in UFOs.

We see interest in in what was happening

with JFK and the release of these

documents. I mean, this is not

coincidence, is it?

>> No. No, it's not coincidence. No. And I

I I share your hypothesis. Um, and I'm

operating on I' I've come to

increasingly

take on a similar uh idea about the

motive. And I don't like using the word

multipolar as a one blanket thing

because as as you guys know and your

audience knows this there's a battle of

over

>> for simplicity I mean simplicity

>> to keep it simple. Yeah. To keep it

simple. Yeah. And one of the um one of

the ideas

that I think those social engineers

trying to manage this new system, this

new paradigm being brought online that

they've had in mind is this concept that

we will require a new set of beliefs

that will replace and supersede the

outdated old beliefs of Christianity and

and the conventional norms of of

morality that have animated society

under the age of Pisces. As we're now

entering this new age of Aquarius or the

age of Horus as Crowley called it, the

age of the the child, the the the the

sacred ignorance of a child that has

this beautiful ignorance, this sacred

superstition that has to be the the the

dominant sort of feeling of the new age

that will be brought online. But that

you know this new superstition, this no

new holy superstition or this dark

enlightenment as some I think uh coin

it. Um, oh, um, okay, you froze there

for a second. Um, it has to be tied to

to new new mythologies that are going to

satisfy our our imagination, our need to

to have the transcendent met, the

feeling of the transcendent that we all

need as a yearning inside of our soul

because our souls are after all more

than the body. They're they are divine.

but that that you can abuse that and and

give it a misdirection as well if you're

a a sorcerer with a little bit too much

political power of course and I think

one of the one of the things that tie in

the story a lot in every every way I

look at it whether it's the drug aspect

whether it's the the control over the

dissolution of the Soviet Union in that

particular way that it happened or the

current name that Trump gave this major

project that it was being revived as

soon as he got elected um which was

project Stargate as a I think an homage

to the thing that that endured all the

way up until the 1990s from 1973 until

the '90s. It

>> didn't be a coincidence.

>> I don't think it's a coincidence a name,

right?

>> Um and a lot of the remote viewing

operations that were a continuation of

MK Ultra that were continued on into the

80s. Um that had a lot of cults. It also

incorporated a lot of cults like the

Edgar Casey cult that donated a lot of

their children. And I've spoken a few of

them to uh become human guinea pigs to

become basically mind warriors. But that

involved a lot of trauma- based mind

control too. It gets a bit disturbing to

hear what some of these people had to go

through under this um Stargate thing,

whatever the hell that was. but then

created also stories again that colored

our our collective dream, our

imagination in the form of Hollywood

movies uh like Stargate which it itself

was entirely informed by the anecdotal

testimonials of of actual people who had

been through the Stargate. Um, I would

even call it a magic trick because I

think it worked with a lot of hoax

hoaxing and a lot of um control of

control of outcomes and people who are

always in on it who are who are playing

into I think this really is stage magic

uh but expanded over a longer term so

that it fed back in and created feedback

loops for Hollywood creative writers

often funded by the CIA to then generate

storylines that would then be promoted

into our films, right? and and again

color our idea predictively of what the

future was going to be. What is on other

planets? What what is in the past? Maybe

the past is the future because the

advanced technologies of the Egyptians

were actually given by by Stargate, you

know intercvilizational

demon aliens, gray alien demon shape

shifters, which is part of the movie

Stargate at the very end, which gave the

pharaohs the power and the technology to

build those pyramids, which actually

exist on other other star systems within

our galaxy. It creates like a space

opera, a big space for the mind to to

create new subs stories and stories

within stories with a a lot of place.

The fact that Trump called it that as

part of the much broader or the the

other aspect was the Oracle AI was

brought in as part of product Stargate.

But then a lot of the abusive like

fintech operations, if you look at a lot

of the the like peer-to-peer

uh fintech uh scams that helped drive

the economic crisis, even the you know

what Goldman Sachs was a part of, but a

lot of the the the biggest disruptive

forces that that were part of of

destabilizing the current economic

architecture and uh and have been

penetrated into China, things like

Alibaba group uh Tencent that they don't

these are not authentically my wife is

writing a big report. We're going to

make this a documentary very shortly.

These don't come out of China. They are

put into China from operators who are

tied to Stanford and to the Stargate

funding mechanisms like Soft Bank uh

which is a Japanese bank that's a major

funer of uh of Stargate and Open AI and

a lot of this is organized around the

same Stanford um area. Peter Theel was

was groomed as was Elon Musk out of the

Stanford operation again the big MK

Ultra operation that was part so I

almost have to restate that but that

that's what was sort of the incubator

that then generated for whatever

experiences that these people were given

while they were there I'm not even too

sure what it is structurally but they

came out of that with this insight to be

the creators of this new alternative

digital economy that would have this

quality about it of allowing you know

billionaires who could run social media

apparatuses like Facebook to then emit

their own currencies and do direct uh

basically act like banks kind of like

what Jackmaw was trying to do when he

called for a banking coup d'etan in

China in 2020 is basically trying to do

what X is also trying to to do. I mean

Elon Musk has said that he would he

would like X to very much be like like

uh Alip Pay Alibaba. Yeah.

>> Yeah. And WeChat which again when you

Yeah. When and when you look at an

everything app, right? where again they

could create social credit scores.

That's part of what Palunteer is also

already doing with their predictive pro

or predictive crime operations that are

active in the police state uh police

departments across many US states

including Canadian states too where

they've got AI working to map out

people's behavior. What what are their

financial transactions, bank records,

websites they go to and give them grades

based on that can be translated into

predictive crime models that could then

preemptively be used to act against

somebody before they commit a crime as

is how a lot of these software systems

are promoted. And these are being

integrated across Europe, too. It's not

just the United States. is not just in

Canada, but we've seen also integration

with the UK where again there's like the

surface appearance of of an of a world

wrestling federation combat between

Trump and Kier armor that's being sold

as you know this they're enemies they

hate each other and I maybe that's true

as personalities possibly but on a

deeper structural level there's the

biggest integration that I've seen with

a 1.5 billion pound uh deal given by the

UK government to palanteer to basically

take over the management of military

systems, healthcare, NHS, you name it.

Um, and other governments are not

there's there almost every government

across Europe to varying degrees,

municipal, federal, provincial, have all

been, you could trap trace out similar

palunteer type integration programs. Um,

which China has been fighting. So,

China's been fighting back against this

foreign agency that's been coming in.

That's why they took down Jack Maw.

That's why they forced the restructuring

of Tencent. They forced the

restructuring of Alibaba and Ant Group

in order to obey the demands and needs

of the nation and not be this foreign

agency doing your own thing to weaken

the the institutions of the the nation

state and the civilization of China

itself. And I think that they've shown

what other other countries could do if

we were actually acting in the interests

of our people. We could use those same

powers that China has also used to reign

them in to put a lot of traders in

prison of which China's put in millions

and try to get control which there's

still a fight, don't get me wrong. It's

still happening as a fight, but they've

done a better job of battling it out

than a lot of the other countries in the

West that I'm looking at that have

allowed this Stargate thing to

increasingly replace functions of uh the

elected government. I

>> is it about replacing religion, the the

UFO story? I mean, is that ultimately at

a very simplistic level? I mean, you

know, you talk about a new mythology,

>> but but is it not so much about

mythology? Is is it just about control

and

and and one of one of the only ways

you're going to actually be able to to

prevent this new system from from coming

about and and keeping control um in in

the hands of of the few is is is you

have to get rid of uh organized religion

or or not even get rid of it, you have

to replace it somehow. And so is that

why you would come up with this new this

new uh belief system? I mean, is that

ultimately on a very simple level?

>> Yeah.

>> Is that why they've created this this

whole UFO

story over the many decades?

>> I I think

>> or is there something more to it?

>> I think there's there's always layers of

motive behind it and and layers of

effects behind it, but I think that

that's a big one for sure. And uh and

you know when you look at Peter The's

obsession with the Antichrist and his

demand his desire to just always meet

with religious leaders um as his primary

sort of passion. This guy is is not your

exactly what you call a ro a role model

for a model Christian. Although some

elements of it he's obsessed with again

the esquetology he lo he adores the

esquetology of of the book of revelation

the the allegorical language of the book

of revelation that you can use and

interpret for all sorts of politically

advantageous reasons if you're somebody

trying to manage new crusades if you're

trying to manage the the behavior out of

fear and terror of hellish you know

hellscapes that on earth that the that

that God demands humanity experience at

the end times, right? So that this is

the sort of thing that has been used and

abused for centuries by bad actors to

get people to become more compliant,

more plant, more malleable, whether it's

to acquies to things like the blood bath

of the crusades or whether it was to go

along with the 30 years war, what that

meant in the minds of a lot of the

participants, they they were thinking it

was very end times, right? The 30 years

war was a was a disaster for Europe and

for just total. But all that to say,

people thought when they were living

through it that that this was it. This

is it's so bad. It couldn't get worse.

This is the end times. The civil war

same thing in America in the 1860s. So

part of his thing is that he got into

religion through the Straussians by

first being a Straussian sponsored by

Irving Crystal in Stanford who was the

sponsor of his libertarian review that

he oversaw from 88 to 92. Um, also Renee

Gerard who is uh closely tied to Leo

Strauss as well as Carl Schmidt and uh a

bunch of other nihilistic you know liars

acting on the surface like they're one

thing but having a secret doctrine for

their inner, you know, their favorite

pupils like Leo Strauss was exposed as

doing. and and Peter Field came out even

celebrating his Straussian pedigree in

2004 in a series of Stanford lectures

that he turned into um an essay that

people can read called the Straussian

moment where he literally talks about

the history of the Straussian thought

even before Strauss rooting it in the

secret doctrines of Jesus and the

Gnostic the Gnostic enemies of the early

Christians and how they promoted this

idea that Jesus was a very different

type of character than the one known in

the in the public bible which had a

secret teaching for his favorites for

the Mary Magdalene for the John and

continued to maintain the secret

doctrine of a secret teaching noble only

for these special super superhumans

right these special initiated ones that

he even locates John Lock was a purveyor

of this and a believer as well as Thomas

Hobbes earlier that he puts in his in

his essay which is a very useful essay

to read just to get into his psyche

because then he he situ ates the

Straussians and the the importance of of

Leo Strauss's noble lie and the need to

create a surface appearance of

Christianity for the dumb ones and then

an inner core teaching for the special

ones of which he of course thinks he's

very special as does Strauss's other

students who become the vanguard of the

neoconservative takeover of the

Republican party in the 1970s and 80s

and 90s um and and go on to continue to

interface with with field as he's

setting up Palunteer out of the total

information awareness operation of John

Po Dexter, the guy who who was running

the parallel government operations under

Iran Contra. Mad John Po Dexter who went

to jail um got out of jail pretty

quickly and was propped up especially

after 911 to be assigned by Dick Cheney

and Ronell to oversee the creation of

that thing with the all singing eye of

Horus the total information systems

awareness uh program to monitor and

measure every everyone's behavior uh to

pred predictively

act on on future crimes and um and that

freaked out a lot of people. the title

was was very very Orwellian. They had to

shut down that program in its official

government branch because that didn't

quite pass the test case. And uh they

basically quickly figured out a way to

create a civilian front group that would

do all of those things it was formerly

doing under under a government uh entity

and brought in this is this is the

origin story of Palanteer where Peter

the was brought in by uh Richard Pearl

who introduced him to John Pandexter and

introduced him to the top brass of the

CIA and the FBI who then oversaw the

creation of this new civilian front

organization that had as its only

contractor its only customer the CIA for

the first few years, right? And and the

palunteer idea is not that different as

a concept of from the total information

awareness of the allseeing eye of Horus.

It's just now using a Lord of the Rings

trope of this orb that could see

omnisiently everything

uh but through a glass darkly, right? Um

and uh and everybody should feel thus

like if they're always being watched

that they won't even commit crimes. They

won't even think bad thoughts because

they will self police in this weird

panopticon type of logic that Jeremy

Bentham put forth as an architecture

centuries earlier. I think that's part

of the the orientation. And so the fact

that Peter Theo is also doing that, I

think it plays into the the theory and

the thinking behind the usefulness of if

not creating new gods, redefining what

we thought our gods were, what we

thought Muhammad was doing when he was

flying on a flying up to heaven or what

what Jesus was doing when he was getting

the powers to heal the sick and walk on

water and do the magic. We're we're

being told, uh, it was actually aliens

that were infusing these powers into

them that maybe they got through secret

holy drugs maybe that helped them

interface with the fifth dimension and

then communicate with these shadowy

entities of the cosmic forces and these

were always the aliens that were there

or maybe Jesus was an alien, right?

Maybe Jesus was the alien helping to

create a new revelation for and you

know, you could you could go a lot of

places. Um so in some cases they want to

redefine the existing religions if you

can't people are deeply connected to

their religions. So it's not so easy to

to just destroy religions but what they

can do is rebranded and redefine what

people thought their religions were. I

think also the the big this is a whole

side topic but I'll just say it. I think

that Carl Young's work in being the

primary sponsor of the Nagamadi

uh Gnostic texts that were discovered

and I I use this in air quotes in 1945

in Egypt very conveniently right after

World War II was over in the same at the

same moment right then you have the Dead

Sea Scrolls conveniently found in a in a

cave as if nobody walked into these this

cave for 2,000 years and this kid's

throwing rocks. It's like oh

>> biggest find that's going to shake the

foundations of religion forever right

after World War II. Really? You serious?

Um, but the fact that Carl Young is the

major sponsor of these things, I think

it was a these were always known and

just held in secret by certain forces.

And this was sort of a way to bring

everybody in the world into this new

initiation that had formerly been

reserved for only those who had passed

certain tests to know about the

continuity of these secret gospels,

these secret teachings. And there

basically World War II didn't work out

as the basis for their new world order.

They had a they had a Hitler agenda that

was supposed to serve as the thing that

was going to make the new world order,

the age of Horus, whatever happened, but

thousand that had to be aborted. So,

they needed a new plan. And I think the

the idea that the the the coming out

party of the the UFOs, these Nordic

Aryan blondhaired, blue-eyed perfect

beings from Venus who are like that's

the way that all of these early alien

encounters were being sold to the world,

right? is these perfect blonde Aryan

Tutonic beings from another planet that

were coming down to the special people

like George Damsky uh you know or or or

George Van Van Tessle from England all

philosophists by by the way who had

their own theosophical temples formerly

they're all the ones who now after going

through World War II where they'd

formally also been kind of pro-Nazi too

like there's connections to the silver

shirts the Nazi silver shirts of uh

William Dudley Pelle who's also a a

theosophical clairvoyant before before

he sets up his fascist silver shirts in

America and there's connections to him

and George Dempsey there's connections

to him to a variety of these agencies

that are all been coming out right after

World War II saying hey I'm having

personal experiences with Aryan super

beings from Venus which is also morning

star Venus is the morning star the star

you see in the morning and at night it

is it is the foundation of the Lucifer

idea

um which is also what these gnostics

think is the essence of Jesus is he is

Lucifer. It's the Sethian gospels for

that reason because Jesus is actually

the the serpent the serpent spirit to be

wise as serpents after all is what Jesus

said didn't he not for his inner leads.

So that's the sort of like essence of uh

of what they were trying to do. And I

think that the foundations of a lot of

the stories like Roswell, these these

terrible these badly piloted uh flying

circles had less to do with what we were

actually absorbing from the Nazis who

actually did have flying saucer

experiments and alternative research on

flying technologies that the the Nazis

were doing as were the Italians that we

absorbed into our secret science

program. So there was something people

were seeing as far as experimental

aircraft over different, you know, test

bases in UK and USA. That's certainly

the case. Not to disparage that new

types of drone technology that emerged

out of Area 51 and these other uh test

facilities. They were seeing something

real. But you are not supposed to think

about the very human agency behind these

things and how it was taken into the

ongoing secret science program of

America that birthed MK Ultra as one of

many other secret science programs of

the Manhattan Project, which didn't

fully disappear, just was rebranded and

expanded after World War II. And a lot

of that requires storytelling to keep on

giving color to what we're experiencing.

When we do drugs, when we see a an

object moving in the night sky that we

can't fully account for, we need a

story. And that's where the

storytellers, the mythmakers are

employed to fill that void. Whether it's

in science fiction, the followers of HG

Wells or in Hollywood films or whatever.

Right.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. Definitely in Hollywood as as you

were talking and and explaining all this

I was thinking with with Palunteer I was

thinking minority report that came to

mind right away. I'm even you know as

you're explaining the the the Nazi

fascination with the with the occult

let's say and these types of things. I'm

even thinking of of simple movies, fun

movies like uh like uh Indiana Jones,

Raiders of the Lost Arc, right? Which

which is which is built on on the Nazis

going going after the the Lost Arc,

which will decimate the the armies of of

the West, right? And that that's that's

that's the whole the whole story of of

that film.

Then you look at the the resurgence of

of discussion of YouTube videos and and

and so many things uh so so many people.

Even Hunter Biden in his interview with

Candace Owens the other day, I believe

he even brought up the Gnostic Bible,

the the Gnostic books as and he started

to quote them.

I I think I'm right about this. I might

be wrong, but I think I'm right about

this. And he brought up a quote from one

of the one of the books. Anyway, people

can fact check me. They can fact check

me on this, but but there's definitely

discussion about about the Gnostic books

that that that were found. And when you

go through those books, you're 100%

right. There is um

they portray they portray Jesus as as

this this extraterrestrial being.

They're definitely pushing that that

view of Jesus as not as not so much of

of spirit of of God, but as as as a

being from a different dimension

and and that's what the books many of

the books are rooted in.

>> And so it really does turn religion what

we know as religion just on its head.

>> Yeah. Yeah, that that caught me like

when you read the book of Philip or the

book of Thomas or the the the secret,

you know, the gospels of Mary Magdalene

or or the the secret apocryph

uh the the essence the character of

Jesus is totally devoid of the type of

loving humanity that that I think is the

only noble kind of character of of the

true Jesus. If we're going to have Jesus

as an idea in our mind and in our heart,

it has to have some human loving

attributes that make us fundamentally

truly human and noble and good and and

focused on on a love of truth and

goodness and uh and a willingness to,

you know, to fight evil, to throw out

the money changers, to to stand up

against the structures of of an evil

empire when that happens. And all those

human attributes are completely devoid

from the this being, this sort of like

detached

aloof

uh etheric being that um is always

hinting at having secret knowledge and

he's using kind of like I think an

intentionally encoded kind of language

to seduce and give promises of secret

knowledge for those who are going to

hold on and go through maybe a bit of

pain or go through a bit of a process of

initiation to discover something true

and always illusions to androgyny in so

many of these different uh Gnostic texts

there's always this idea that God is

actually not a good guy. God is an evil

god. God is aljab. God is the evil

demiorg that uh was the the the effect

the mutant the mutant effect of the of

the self-procreation of the man-hating

Sophia the fallen el you know emanation

of of the transcendental divine that has

no morality no good or bad is just pure

light that created these sexified

emanations that that procreated with

each other created the foundations of

virtue and justice and whatever else

that have very little meaning in this

this cosmology and out of which Sophia

was generated that just hated man so

much was so resentful that she she she

didn't want to procreate with a male

energy but rather with herself and gave

rise to this mutant yaaboth

B whatever that was so ignorant that he

made the world in his in his own image

and the world becomes evil. The world

becomes everything, you know, the

morality of the of what humans interface

with, the the the physical, the the

spiritual domain that we were born into,

that we operate within. All of that is

is reframed in the mind of of somebody

who believes this as evil, a prison

planet, a prison universe that we have

to break free of uh through again

curated rituals that are going to help

us do that by integrating light and

darkness, by integrating the the evil

and the good, the the sacred and the

profane. And the more we get used to

doing that, the more we're liberated

from the belief in either. And the more

we become self-actualized to become

creatures who do what we will as the

whole of the law and qualify in

Crowley's mind as being truly men. And

thus if we qualify then we know that it

is our place as true men who are

actually superhuman. We're were

transhuman to then naturally subjugate

the underhumans those who didn't go

through that process and thus don't

qualify for the lima as their uh their

you know uber mention doctrine. They're

not really human. They're just things

that are there to be played for, to be

used as slaves for the uh the higher

elites. That's it. That's it. And uh and

I feel like there's a smell of sulfur in

uh in the the remarks of some of these

neuvo nuvo Christians who are coming out

popularizing a different brand of

Christianity than the one that I think

gave rise to everything good and useful

for the past 2,000 years. um that does

seem to be very compatible with the UFOs

are or aliens are demons and Jesus was a

interdimensional being type of you know

framing that's that's also become JD

Vance is giving speeches about his idea

giving interviews about his idea of the

aliens or demons very high level people

in government are giving speeches about

this sort of thing and I'm not there to

disparage that completely I'm just

saying it it seems to be all part of the

same witch's brew as far as I'm looking

at it

>> right right I yeah I've I've noticed

that as Well, a lot of uh ve very high

level people or prominent uh

personalities are definitely creating

this this demon

uh UFO demon type of connection. Not

really UFOs, but but they're demons is

is what we're dealing with. Uh just I

just fact checked my my own uh claim

with Hunter Biden in the Candace

interview. During the the discussion on

faith, Hunter Biden brought up the

Gnostic Gospels discovered in Egypt. He

specifically mentioned the Gospel of

Thomas, also called the book of Thomas

in some context alongside the Gospel of

Philip. So interesting. Yeah. So, uh,

just a final question, uh, Matthew,

where are we going with all of this? I

mean, I mean, you've got the

documentaries that you're working on.

Once again, excellent documentaries,

really fascinating stuff. uh a lot of

history, a lot of a lot of geopolitics

as well in in in all of your your work

with regards to to the documentaries and

and and the tiein with with with the

whole UFO narrative.

Without giving away too much of of your

work and and the documentaries that are

that are soon to be released, the the

work that's soon to be released, where

are we going with all of this? Where are

we going with with the narrative of the

UFOs? What's the tiein with AI? We you

you talked about AI, you talked about

Palunteer.

>> Are these things converging? Is that

ultimately where we're heading towards?

Just your your final thoughts as as we

wrap up the the video. So, as part of

the bad witches brew, yeah, there's an

idea to converge in the psychedelic new

new holy um instead of instead of having

just a little a wafer host and a bit of

wine uh as part of your religious

service, part of the the new rights

involve in the mind of those who are

trying to like manage this kind of weird

uh esquetological manipulation. They

want us to see drugs as being a holy

thing that's part of this psilocybin

uh DMT normalization program that's been

underway in the psyche now for a number

of years. Jordan Peterson's a big

promoter of this thing. There's others

um that are becoming increasingly

government policy to uh that Trump

unfortunately has embraced and

facilitated. It starts kind of like

maiden starts, you know, it's like

sympathetically I understand for people

who have trauma, who've been through

crazy abuse or maybe have suicidal

thoughts with impossible neuro pathways,

maybe it helps to deattern it to help if

for extreme cases, maybe. Okay, sure.

But it's it's this policy is not

designed to just help those who are in

extreme uh situations of normalizing

therapeutic um psychedelics.

Um it it's it's once they're they're

always animated by the idea of getting

into an all this huxley kind of brave

new world structure where that becomes

our new freedom is the freedom to to

have our mind drugs and to have we see

being sold for microaggressions, right?

Everyone's being told that they are all

all victims. We're all victims of

microaggressions on a subconscious

level. And the only way to thus cope

with these subconscious problems of

anxiety and nihilism and other things we

have is to receive micro doses to help.

So there's there's already an effort to

get people into that state. um that

they're going to expand expand and

expand and expand um to the it's the

soma it's the s religion the so the more

you dislodge people from their idea of

an objective universe outside of

themselves because in that world you're

more convinced that you create your own

reality every perception you have is is

objectively real every feeling you have

is objective real every hallucination

you have is object objectively real and

people could be induced to have similar

hallucinations if they're given similar

stories that they feel very religious ly

strongly about they will start coloring

like let's say certain back rooms right

that are being uh infused into the

zeitgeist where people are all talking

about having the same dream and and it

becomes a feedback loop right the more

people want it the more they think it

the more they imagine it the more they

dream the colors of their dreams the

more they think that maybe there is this

objective other dark universe that is

infusing itself into our our collective

psyche that's interfacing with us and

that's how a lot of this stuff works so

it does it does play into the um this

new UFO religion that they want to you

know they'll allow people to have

disputes about like which kind of alien

you want to side with who are the good

aliens who are the bad aliens or you

know so they're going to allow some

dispute of is it the David Ike kind or

Steven Greer kind that you that you

support they'll let Steven Greer and Ike

fight each other without ignoring while

ignoring the fact that both of them are

committed to overthrowing Christianity

and creating a new Gothic kind of a a

new gnostic kind of religious uh

architecture to what Christianity should

be allowed to be. Um, so yeah, you got

this bad idea. I think on the good side

of things, we do see evidence of a

battle going on, especially I see more

evidence of this in China and of Russia.

I'm hoping that there are patriots. I

mean, there's clearly a lot of patriots

in America who don't want to go along

with everything I just said. They just

don't know how to think about it

necessarily, but they would like to

revive their better constitutional

traditions and work with work with

Putin, work with Xi Jinping to

collaborate in breaking humanity free of

this ancient evil that's been latched on

like a parasite. Um, I'm hoping that

that movement can get a its head out of

its ass a little bit and start seeing

more critically some of the traps that

have been set for them. And that

includes I let's presume that Trump

means well and he's just being advised

poorly. Um I'm hoping that he can also

um tap into some of the better things he

was doing in the first term as far as

his instincts to get real real genuine

war avoidance and collaboration with

China and Russia and others and and not

allow the Peter Theals and the

transhumanists of the Star Stargate

variety to run policy uh for the world

or especially for for the transatlantic.

So we'll see. But um I don't know it's

it's an underdefined

transition moment right between two

systems and there's a big battle knives

out over what that new system is going

to be and I think we should be looking

more seriously honestly at how China how

Xi Jinping and the patriots of China

have actually been doing battle with

this thing and taking some lessons

seriously taking notes

>> because so far they're just being that's

why they're being that's why China has

been so demonized so that we don't even

look at what the battle is against the

the deep state structures into inside of

China because we could again we could

learn a hell of a lot or look at what we

did in the better times past when we

properly had like Franklin Roosevelt

doing battle with this agency inside of

America and doing doing it very very

successfully in a way that we could also

learn from in the West as well. So I

yeah I mean with that I I I just

realized I'm eight minutes late for

another another

>> let's let's wrap it up there. Uh we we

went for for a good hour. Thank you

Matthew. But before you go real quick

once again where can people follow your

work?

>> Yeah, they can go to canadianatriot.org

or to watch all of the documentaries. My

wife Cynthia Chung, her uh her Substack

also has a lot of great material being

produced at Cynthia Chung.substack and

my Substack is matthew eric.substack

uh.com and our books are there too. So

people like like doing more heavy

lifting. We've written a lot of books

going through a lot of these different

dynamics. So those are all easy to find

on those websites.

>> All the links in the description box

down below, including the link for the

the documentary series. Thank you,

Matthew. Take care.

>> Thank you. by